paulnbexplus2 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Hi All, firstly an excellent site with lots of information so far helping me learn a loads, but I have one problem I need clarifying. I am currently looking into moving to Perth under the state nomination, I make the 55 points total and need a little help getting the final 10 points, basically my occupation of Office Manager requires me to have a diploma (which I don't) I've got conflicting evidence to suggest I do need this, then I don't if I have relevant work experience (over 8 years) so basically after looking around I'm still none the wiser and my question is for anyone who has passed Vetassess without a diploma and gained the 10 points, so if anyone can help me or point me in the right direction it would be greatly appreciated. n.b. I already had a chat with Paul at academy 3 (very helpful) about obtaining the diploma based on my current employment and he agrees it would be certifiable, but I don't want to spend money if I don't actually need this diploma and experience would suffice. Again many thanks in advance Paul & Bex IELTS booked 30/06/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N7kkp Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Hi paul if you have been working as an office manager why don't you do like I did? I went and got a diploma in managemt through recognition of prior learning. It cost about £650 and it is an Australian diploma and I did it in 10 days however I did do it virtually full time. The company I used was academy 3 website. http://Www.academy3.edu.au. I am currently going through the vetassess process as office manager and am currently 12 weeks into waiting for a result. Good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N7kkp Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Oh before I finished I forgot to mention you do need the qualification or my agent told me I did. The way I look at it it takes vetassess ages to give you an answer. Do you want to wait up to 16 weeks for vetassess to come back and say no because you don't have a qualification? Trust me the last 12 weeks have felt like forever and if I had to do it all again because they said no, I would prefer to get it all complete before I apply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulnbexplus2 Posted June 1, 2012 Author Share Posted June 1, 2012 Hi N7kkp, sorry not been on for a while. as per your point above, I have also looked into this, they are very good academy3, very helpful indeed. I will take them up on obtaining the diploma in management before I apply to vetassess. can you keep me posted about how you get on with your application. Much appreciated. Best regards Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chippsss Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Hi N7kkp - Thought id drop you a quick line as we have too just failed our Vetassess skills assessment by a short margin as our qualification is just below the required level for an AQF Diploma ....... very frustrating ! Have read with interest your post about Acadamy 3 and will be contacting them myself to see if there is anything we can gain under Recog of prior learning . Would you recommend them ?? Have you had a Vetassess result yet ? Have they accepted the Diploma ? Thanks Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shellyk666 Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Hi N7kkp - Thought id drop you a quick line as we have too just failed our Vetassess skills assessment by a short margin as our qualification is just below the required level for an AQF Diploma ....... very frustrating ! Have read with interest your post about Acadamy 3 and will be contacting them myself to see if there is anything we can gain under Recog of prior learning . Would you recommend them ?? Have you had a Vetassess result yet ? Have they accepted the Diploma ? Thanks Mark Hi Would you mind confirming what qualification didn't meet the requirement of AQF Diploma? many thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chippsss Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 It was a BTEC Level 3 National Diploma issued here in UK for Leisure studies. I believe it has to be a level 4 HNC to be equivalent but no one seems to know for sure so awaiting a reply from verassess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N7kkp Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Hi Yes would defo recommend them. The process is very simple to. I did a diploma in management and vetassess recognised it as a suitable qualification. Out of interest what job were you assessed for? It took me less than 2 weeks to do the qualification. In the end it is very rewarding but hard work. You complete 9 modules, they interview you and a current or previous employer over the phone, plus for all tasks undertaken you need to provide evidence. I am currently going through a reassesment so just waiting for my migration agent to sign everything off to resubmit. Just taking ages but i suppose they want to get everything right as they helped to mess things up in the first place. Anyway wont go over it as i am where i am and have to accept it and keep trying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N7kkp Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Oh forgot to say so sorry to hear about vetassess i know how you feel, but it sounds like you know what you need to do. Dont give up on the dream, i certainly am not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithinoz Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 I would also recommend academy3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chippsss Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Thanks everyone - seems I will do the academy 3 diploma and just pray it's sufficient and we dont get turned down at another hurdle ! As for qualifications and to help anyone in the future - I spoke to Edexcel today and they confirmed that a LEVEL 4 BTEC is a HNC . It appears that HNC is the name Edexcel give to their Level 4 BTECs . I then spoke to City and Guilds who confirm that they are the main rivals of EDEXCEL and that their HNC equivalent is a straight forward Level 4 . Hope this helps in the future. Now my question is how did people find the telephone interview for academy 3 ? Was it a nail biting experience or relatively okay ? ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goochc0 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Hi I am also doing the Diploma in Management via Academy3 after reading it as an option on here. I have 2.5 more modules to complete and have done this so far in 3-4 weeks or so (with a week off for jubilee) Then we are just awaiting the new CSOL list to see where to go from here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chippsss Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 How are you finding it ? How do they teach you / assess you on the Units you have to do ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N7kkp Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 I thought the interview part was the easiest bit, trust me it is done very casually and Paul at academy 3 is really good. I personally enjoyed the experience because even if you have been doing management jobs for years, its good to reflect . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulnbexplus2 Posted June 12, 2012 Author Share Posted June 12, 2012 Hi N7kkp, i've just come on to find your vetassess was unsucsessful, have you managed to find out why? was it the diploma quals? I have my IELTS exam this saturday and was going to do academy3 after it. Let me know Cheers Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goochc0 Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 It is quite a straightforward process to be honest. I have chosen to do all the modules by writing due to time difference and fitting around work. This is probably the longer way around to be honest but there is no hurry as waiting for the CSOL anyway. It is a series of competence scenarios and you just prove that you have that competence which if you have been working as a manager you should fond quite straightforward. I was also considering taking a certificate in Marketing too by RPL - but will wait and see how it goes. I am also curious to know why N7kkp failed the vetassess assessment. If we can avoid making the same errors that would be great. I have a feeling there may be an influx of Office Managers moving to WA this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N7kkp Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 Hi all My unsuccessful vetassess application was down to vetassess not matching my job responsibilites to that of an office manager on the anzsco list. The qualification which i completed, the aqf diploma in management rpl (recognition of prior learning) was fine. I am having a reassesment because what i provided was not enough, so i am compiling further supporting information for a reassesment. Should hopefully have everything together for next tuesday. Just need to get my previous employer to sign a job description and some further details. Then the very nervous wait again. Just to reconfirm the qualification was successful, it was the job match that i failed on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goochc0 Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 Thank you for letting us know. I can breathe out now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulnbexplus2 Posted June 15, 2012 Author Share Posted June 15, 2012 i second that, made me feel a bit better, sorry about what happened to you but i've got everything crossed for you that it gets accepted second time round. got my IELTS exam tomoz.....poop..haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N7kkp Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Good luck in your IELTS and thanks for the kind comments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulnbexplus2 Posted June 17, 2012 Author Share Posted June 17, 2012 did the IELTS, wow i thought the listening was easy, reading a bit tough and writing, well i'm pretty sure i did'nt do too well on that one, as for speaking......i went to pot!!! oh well 13 days and we'll see, just need overall score 7 so fingers crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Val Tibenham Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 My eldest DD got her vetassess result this morning for Office Manager - successful :jiggy: She doesn't have an office qualification as such although she does have a Degree in Technical Theatre with Stage Management as her major. She does have lots of work experience appropriate to Office Manager - don't know how many years they're allowing her yet as it says this info will come in the letter. So there is hope for those of you without a dedicated office qualification if you have the experience to match the ANZSCO job description :smile: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithinoz Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Thats fantastic news Val. Are you applying for 176 straight away? My eldest DD got her vetassess result this morning for Office Manager - successful :jiggy: She doesn't have an office qualification as such although she does have a Degree in Technical Theatre with Stage Management as her major. She does have lots of work experience appropriate to Office Manager - don't know how many years they're allowing her yet as it says this info will come in the letter. So there is hope for those of you without a dedicated office qualification if you have the experience to match the ANZSCO job description :smile: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Val Tibenham Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Nope as we want to be based in Sydney if poss. We're waiting on the new CSOL list to be published and will make decisions from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeslieF Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 My eldest DD got her vetassess result this morning for Office Manager - successful :jiggy: She doesn't have an office qualification as such although she does have a Degree in Technical Theatre with Stage Management as her major. She does have lots of work experience appropriate to Office Manager - don't know how many years they're allowing her yet as it says this info will come in the letter. So there is hope for those of you without a dedicated office qualification if you have the experience to match the ANZSCO job description :smile: Excellent news Val!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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